GRACE: Well, you`re leaving out the guy that pulled the trigger. He is a balding 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, a married father of two. I mean, it`s almost like a party to a crime type of charge because she was the one who goaded GRACE: Oh, here`s the picture of the mom, El. What is that? Ron Kenyon told "20/20," "our first concern was talking to Jessi and making sure she was still alive. Daniel, I`m just sick hearing these facts. It`s your choice." GRACE: As far as I`m concerned, Daniel Barrett, she should be charged with murder. Remember, the Sunday school teacher, the father of two? By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. "It was stupid. Eventually, Barrett decided to visit 'Jessi' even though Shieler had warned him not to. I mean, we filed a civil suit against Tom Montgomery with the attitude of stopping him from ever trying to write a book and winning monies and things of that nature. That is a formidable injury. Freaks! (COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: Welcome back. John, so you`ve got a 46-year-old man, a 45-year- old woman. The reality is, the victim in this case is a young man, Brian Barrett, just 22 years old, a co-worker of the suspect, shot three times in the neck, jaw, and arm close range by a rifle, a high-powered rifle. GRACE: Joining me right now is a special guest. 'He was my height, six-feet tall, had bright red hair,' said Montgomery to ABC News. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The vengeful girl turns to one of his much younger co-workers on line. But Barbara, you interviewed the killer behind -- you interviewed him. He was not luring a teenager, Peter Odom. Joining me out of L.A. who produced the film on this case, including an interview with the alleged killer. Menu. 2 Fayetteville, WV, she was the daughter of the late Lloyd David and Susie Ellen Bailes Shieler. Even after she found out Montgomery was lying to her and Montgomery was 47, she continued to play the game that she was this young, beautiful teenager. If you think you`re talking to an underager, if you`re an adult and you think you`re talking to an underage girl, you`re a weirdo. Which makes it all the more difficult to understand the evil this mother was secretly unleashing into cyberspace. For the movie, Mary Shieler's name was changed to Beth . MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. Emotionally, I was immature. JIM AVILA, GEOFF MARTZ and JOANNE NAPOLITANO, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. I mean like poker or something? Mary A Shieler, age 96, Lincolnshire, IL Background Check Cities: Mountain Home ID, Newport WA Possible Relatives: Taylerann Elizabeth Faul, Denise Nicole Haskins Show More Mary B Shieler, age 61 View Full Report Address:***** Brier Hill Ln, Ronceverte, WV. "It's rare that a new law is the solution to social problems," said Beaber, who suggested specific injunctions from "being deceptive on the Internet," similar to orders of protection, as a possible solution. Earlier I think it was John who said that he thought that these people were insane and Looney Tunes. Related To Edward Shieler, Jessica Shieler, Timothy Shieler, Emma Shieler. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She said, hey, cowboy, how are you doing? Police quickly learned of the Internet love triangle from co-workers. While Mary Shieler's husband divorced her and Jessi cut off contact (Shieler approached Jessi at the divorce hearing, according to Schroeder, and said, "why don't you get over this? I'll just play the game with her," he said. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her bio (INAUDIBLE) says she was 18. "For the entire year and a half they communicated, he exhibited rage issues, and she continued to egg him on.". GRACE: OK. Barbara Schroder, you interviewed this guy behind bars. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. In exchange for his plea, he received a 20-year sentence. Once there, a policeman asked Jessi's mother, Mary Shieler, where Jessi was. MARINESNIPER1000: It`s too late, Jessi. Mary B Shieler, Age 61. GRACE: Explain your thinking on that. GRACE: All right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don`t go creeping up on me like that, Carol. CUYAHOGA FALLS, OHIO - Mary Yvonne Shieler, 69, formerly of Fayetteville, WV went home to be with the Lord on Monday, June 27, 2016 in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. Upon investigation of the murder the police quickly reach out to Jessi. God, men were easy. Don`t take Tommy!" The cyber-flirting, which began in May 2005, soon turned to cyber-sex as Montgomery lied about his history of covert ops, even though he never saw action during his stint in the military. MARINESNIPER1000: After what I read, you don`t give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about me or your Tommy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "How you told him I`m a loser and predator, I don`t have a life. Number one, sometimes these people are so obsessed with their activities they themselves save those chat room to logs that people -- police can recover. Before long, the flirtation became a romance. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "That is up to you, Jessi. Giving himself the moniker 'MarineSniper', Montgomery told 'Jessi' that he was a young, handsome Iraq-bound Marine, while she claimed to be a softball-playing high school senior from West Virignia. But clearly, and I`m looking at the stack, the two-foot stack of instant messages that exchanged here between these people and also the triangle with Brian Barrett. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, to 18 years old. At one point, Montgomery told Jessi that Barrett had "made a very deadly enemy," and that by continuing contact with him, "u have done what I feared mostturned my heart ice cold." UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Tom, stop! Prosecutors in Buffalo, meanwhile, looked for a way to charge Mary Shieler for something -- anything -- in the case but concluded she may have tramped all over the moral and ethical line, but never crossed the legal one. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Wish you were nude." Schroeder includes several of the thousands of IMs that revealed the love, lust and scorn among the three in her film. Happy birthday. He`s not 18. She fed him photos from 'her' high school basketball team, softball team, graduation and prom as their relationship continued for months. Release Calendar Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. So this story ends with one man dead, one in prison, and one mother who was never charged with a crime. ", Montgomery's alter ego suddenly and violently crossed over from fantasy to real life. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What would you do?" Montgomery's wife, alerted by her daughter, found a trove of love letters, photos and mementos from Jessi, including a pair of red panties. And that`s how it becomes this triangle. He is a 46-year-old balding father of two Sunday school teacher. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You`ve been on line for two hours. You could have been honest with, Jessi, instead of crying on Brian`s shoulder. A blurred picture of Jessi Shieler, the 18-year-old daughter of Mary Shieler, who used it under the online name Tallhotblonde. In fact, Mary Shieler helped Thomas Montgomery cross the line. Now, John Phillips, these two adults, a 45-year-old and a 46-year-old Sunday school teacher, they don`t care that they`re playing a teen? Brian's screen name is "Beefcake" and as he consoled Jessi online, she seemed to find a better fit with him -- and perhaps a way to strike back at the combat Marine who wasn't. I will tell you GRACE: It`s not legally crazy. Daddy wasn`t playing poker on line. That almost gave me a heart attack. Photos she sent Montgomery were of her daughter. But Mary couldn't let it go. DANIEL BARRETT, FATHER OF MURDER VICTIM (via telephone): Hi, Nancy. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who would have thought it would lead to a two-year affair, a love triangle, and more. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "You will never forgive me." What -- how did he strike you? EXCLUSIVE - Revealed: Carol Kirkwood's secret toyboy fianc - 13 years her junior - is a divorced police 'Digital antidepressants' to be rolled out on the NHS as health bosses give eight apps and web-based therapy BBC journalists vote 'overwhelmingly' to stage series of strikes in move that could sabotage corporation's 'This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen!' This post was published on the now-closed HuffPost Contributor platform. Intrigued by the flirtatious nature of the messages and the beautiful profile pic the girl called 'Jessi' had, Montgomery decided to use the anonymity of the Internet and message her back pretending to be 18 too. "When word got out about the sniper identity not being real, what [Jessi] did from Montgomery's point of view was a kind of homicide," Beaber told The Daily Beast. That`s Tallhotblond. I`m going on to my next little project. Self: On the Case with Paula Zahn. Had they ever met in real life, Thomas Montgomery and Mary Shieler might just have been the perfect couple. GRACE: You can call it "starting stuff" all you want to. As the pair's online affair intensified, 'Jessi' began to send Montgomery extremely provocative photographs and he sent her a picture of himself from 30 years ago, when he was a member of the U.S. Marines. But one of the men this faux Internet honeybee attracted, was more interested than most. I`ve done too much damage to be undone now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You might get the magic." Past Addresses: Oak Hill WV, Oak Hill WV +4 more. And on -- in this case, it`s like you think you`re selling cocaine, but you`re really selling a turnip, all right? Thoughts? That`s why they`re constantly online with each other. She had to go and physically get that underwear in order to send it away to somebody she thought was a Marine. You replaced him with Timmy." It was just an on-line flirtation. Cindy was furious, but this good mom felt sorry for the girl, and wrote "Jessi" a letter, exposing Montgomery's true identity: Do not trust words on a computer, let this go, you will only be hurt by a man who has mastered the art of manipulations and lies. Learn About Thomas Montgomery Documentary - Talhotblond Talhotblond is a 2009 documentary that apprehends an Internet love triangle story that resulted in a real-life murder. And this is what they`re saying to each other before it all blows up in murder. 'She sends me a text message and says, she hates me you should be put in jail for this,' said Montgomery to ABC News. I think Dr. Bethany GRACE: That is Tallhotblond! However, when police arrived at her door they were presented with 45-year-old Mary Shieler. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "He left a few copies of your conversation on my toolbox today. Turns out Mary, middle aged, overweight, and tragically bored, had created a new life for herself online. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Where are you going?" GRACE: OK, question, Jean Casarez. Talhotblond's instant messages revealed that her real name was Jessi, a softball-playing high school senior from West Virginia. I just -- I don`t know. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why?" It was herdumpy 45-year-old housewife Mary Shielerwho used sexy photos of her own daughter to seduce both men, including having cybersex with them using her daughter's name and image, and eventually driving one to murder the other. There was even serious talk of marriage. So -- (CROSSTALK) GRACE: Off the physical computer itself. This erupted in violence. For almost a year, marinesniper and talhotblond carried on a steamy love affair, until one night, when marinesniper's real life wife, Cindy Montgomery, discovered her husband's secret stash of photos and panties. This is hard for me to even get my head around, so even after she learns she`s not talking to an 18-year-old kid about to head off to Iraq, she`s talking to a 46-year-old man, she still continues her charade posing as a teen? Shieler hemmed and hawed, and began to cry. Peter Odom, what is a 46-year-old man doing trolling online for 18- year-old girls while his wife is upstairs asleep and his two daughters are asleep? See for yourself by trying this new quiz devised by cardiologists Kate flies the flag! CLEMENTS: No, not legally crazy, but I will -- I will suggest GRACE: She`s stirring the pot, and then it boils over. "By breaking the fantasy and his ability to live in it, she was killing any hope he had to save himself. With me, John Lucich, criminal investigator, president of E Forensics. He`s 46. Why are you saying that?" And I think it can happen -- this kind of stuff can happen to everybody, but when it leads to murder, that`s when it gets a little crazy and, you know, they clearly crossed the line. Thomas Montgomery was in a sexless marriage and a dead end job. Free speech is one thing, but when you use it as a drug and a weapon, we need laws for that.". Right. Given that there were no specific laws to address what Drew had done, prosecutors based their case on Drew having violated MySpace's terms of service. "If I was smart, I would've just ended it, but it was like a, a drug that I needed every day," he said. MARINESNIPER1000: You still have it, don`t you? They`re freaks and a potential pedophile. You will what on Saturday?" One where SHE used her daughter's pictures, videos and underwear to lure men into a sex charged Internet web of lies. Why they`re not looking at her GRACE: She knew that they PETER ODOM: is just amazing to me. The family budget was tight, but Jessi was going to two proms, her own, and her boyfriend's. SCHROEDER: Yes, that`s where Thomas Montgomery started playing his game. PETER ODOM, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, I can`t believe you`re even asking that question. But there seems to be no suggestion as to what such laws would look like from lawmakers in New York. But there`s just one problem. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Wish I could be that 19-year-old Marine for you." The point-blank shooting of a 22-year-old young man. He`s a 46-year-old balding Sunday school teacher, father of two. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Three hours you two were talking about me." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The other says he`s a handsome young Marine. Mary was thrilled with all the attention. END. Unlock Profile. We`re not blurring his photo because guess who that is? Mary Shieler didn't come away unscathed. "I have never felt this way," Montgomery responded. CLEMENTS: No, it`s -- no, I would say that that man (CROSSTALK) GRACE: were both in it kit and kaboodle. And the guard said he turned as white as -- as white as the walls that were behind him because he found out that he just threw his life away for a fantasy that never existed. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Calls herself a beautiful 18-year-old blonde. But they made him think GRACE: Well, that (CROSSTALK) GRACE: We learned that in first year of law school. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I will get out of your life, Tom. She says, look, I want you to pretend to be Tommy again, and had she stopped playing her game at any point in time, Brian Barrett would still be alive today. She was just looking to have some fun and the reason she kept talking to Montgomery was because she didn`t want him to talk to real teenagers, and do to real teenagers what she didn`t -- you know, she didn`t want him to do. Hi, Sonya. Is this for real? I will on Saturday." She strikes up a romance in one of those teen chat rooms with another teen called Marinesniper, a handsome 18-year-old set to deploy to Iraq. Eleanor Odom, back you again. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "My heart will exist no more after Saturday, so I will forgive with an e-mail. And that`s why they got caught up in this fantasy and their fantasies is fell in love with each other. The 46-year-old balding man who pretends to be a strapping, young, and handsome guy about to be deployed to Iraq? "I kept thinking, well, we're never going to meet. Born on April 3, 1947 at Rt. You know what, he -- a guys goes to talk to a young woman on the Internet, surprise, crime of the century. 2. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What on earth are you doing on there? SCHROEDER: Well, in talking -- we actually talked with Mary Shieler after all this happened, and I asked her, you know, how -- what were you thinking, and he was her justification for lying online. Jessie had to have two. I know you say she`s a piece of dirt, but I would feel better if that piece of dirt didn`t have a house or a car. ", Montgomery said Jessi was horrified, and broke off the relationship immediately. The second best result is Mary A Shieler age 80+ in Lincolnshire, IL. On Sept. 15, 2006, as Barrett left work, three shots rang out. And in the end she`s a -- I guess a worthless piece of meat out there, and a civil suit would do nothing. It should have never happened. I mean, his entire life revolved around getting up every morning at 6:30, going to school until 3:00, and going over to Dynabreak (ph) from 3:00 to 10:00 for a second shift to afford to go to school. That`s up to you, Jessi. Mary sent her prey sexy red silk g-strings and love notes. Published: 22:15 GMT, 23 June 2012 | Updated: 07:00 GMT, 24 June 2012. I mean, my wife and I were sick and literally I think almost throwing up in the beginning when we found out about it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "That`s all?" SCHROEDER: Yes, he admitted to my producer that he was impotent. "It was like a drug. Home Inspections by a North Carolina Licensed Professional Burke Shuford of Triangle Home Checkers is dedicated to providing the speed & service that you need. I mean, that`s -- that`s really how I see this. 46-year old Thomas Montgomery began a spiraling online affair which led to him murdering a love rival and discovering his alleged 18-year-old lover was in fact a 45-year-old woman. And it's, it's kind of frightening.". Certainly, she has some kind of fantasy life. Brian Barrett's parents started a petition to enact laws to protect against future Mary Shielers. In 2008, Missouri mother Lori Drew was initially convicted of three misdemeanor counts of computer fraud for posing as a teenage boy to send harsh messages, including one that said "the world would be a better place without you," to a 13-year-old girl named Megan Meier, who then committed suicide. And she knew that she was playing with fire. PHILLIPS: Oh, absolutely. And that`s what`s scary about this type of crime. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "What does Brian have to do with this? Before long, Jessi was sending Brian her photos and the two had become a cyberitem. Jessi and Berrett took to the Internet to make sure everyone knew Montgomery (who recently had a birthday) was a liar. Mary Shieler. They were a team, inseparable, getting nails done together and shopping for prom, and not just for one dress. She knew that she PETER ODOM: She had to know it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "I know, Tom." Photos she sent Montgomery were of her daughter. So this girl restored his virility. I'll just play the game with her,' said Montgomery, whose tragic story has now been turned into a Lifetime Movie directed by 'Friends' Courtney Cox. GRACE: Wow. Do you miss it. Bronze Star, Purple Heart, a police officer. Marine. Her husband divorced her over her deception and her daughter Jessi cut ties too, moving in with relatives in Virginia, where she was attending college. GRACE: And the reality is neither of these men had ever met her. ELEANOR ODOM, FELONY PROSECUTOR, DEATH PENALTY QUALIFIED: Well, the law just doesn`t -- GRACE: Aiding or abetting. CUYAHOGA FALLS, OHIO - Mary Yvonne Shieler, 69, formerly of Fayetteville, WV went home to be with the Lord on Monday, June 27, 2016 in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. And, you know, imagine that moment when you`re handed a photo of the girl that you just killed a man over. Brain thought "talhotblond' was really a teenager too, and was quickly entangled in Mary's web. mary shieler interview mary shieler interview. The final irony to this case and talhotblond is that behind the well-matched youthful sizzle of the Jessi and Tommy personas lay another, equally well-matched pair: the two malcontented strangers who created them. January 27, 2021 to present. PETER ODOM: Yes, Nancy. Mostly, Mary struck me as a bored, attention-seeking person. Our son was just a great kid. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "To hell, I hope." He is moving to West Virginia to be with the love of his life.". Brian Bennett just involuntarily gets included, and Montgomery decides, I`m going to take somebody out allegedly, and I`m going to kill him so I can get Jessi back. mary shieler interviewshort anecdotes for speechesshort anecdotes for speeches She was actually a 45-year-old part-time secretary with a teen daughter. "), there has been no legal recourse to try Shieler, who has said she plans to write a book about the dangers of the Internet. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, don`t try to blame her, Thomas! He is 46 years old.'. Thanks to our guests, but especially to you for being with us and a special good night from the New York control room. Prosecutors said their discovery of Montgomery's DNA on a peach pit found at the crime scene and a photo of Montgomery family's gun cabinet -- which showed the type of old military rifle that police believe was used to shoot Barrett -- were key to their case against Montgomery. (CROSSTALK) GRACE: Peter. And this on-line love affair continues. How did Talhotblond, the, what, 50-year-old woman posing as a teen -- how did she know the details of Montgomery and Brian Barrett`s work life? The chance encounter online between a gorgeous young 18-year-old girl named Jessi and a handsome 18-year-old marine called Thomas Montgomery seemed on the surface to be innocent enough. "There was virtual sex going on in there between her and Tommy," he said. He`ll say, leave me alone. The real Jessi found out what her mother had done after a random Google search of her mother's name. She flirted online with Barrett, who called himself 'beefcake', on open forums for Montgomery to see. BARBARA SCHROEDER, PRODUCED FILM ON CASE THAT INCLUDES INTERVIEW WITH KILLER: Hi, Nancy. Unfortunately, it`s not. That's why his impulse toward her was murderousfrom a psychological perspective, she engaged in cyber homicide.". El, and not only is she being Tallhotblond, she`s using pictures of her daughter. The teen daughter doesn`t know anything about it. They should both stew in the same pot together, Peter Odom! And you know what`s even scarier is the woman that was posing as the 18-year-old Tallhotblond -- you know, she is just as guilty of murder as the person who pulled the trigger. Him and I have been Cub Scout leaders for a few years, and the boys played together on our soccer team. GRACE: I -- to Barbara Schroder, who produced the film on this case, including an interview with the killer, any more bombshells you learned from the interview? Don't get along with your Mom? Also known as Mary B Dailey. Montgomery began to go into a downward spiral. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. What damage would that have done? I`ve got to go to Brian`s father, Daniel Barrett. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Stare." It even seemed that he was losing touch with reality, as a note to himself proved. Part of the Daily Mail, The Mail on Sunday & Metro Media Group. He was having an on-line love affair with who he believed to be Tallhotblond, a teen girl. A vengeful 'Jessi'/Mary Shieler then used the Internet to find a 22-year-old co-worker of Montgomery called Brian Barrett, setting in motion a tragic series of events which led to his murder.. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "You told him I`m a loser and predator." That is actually Montgomery many, many years ago. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Why not?" I just thought, oh god.". UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you first see it come up and she says hello, and it says Talhotblond, what are you thinking? With both men believing that she was the gorgeous young thing in her profile pictures and keepsakes sent to them, the pair engaged in a furious rivalry. And she`s actually a 45-year-old secretary and a mother posing as her teen daughter on line. One night, in a jealous rage, Montgomery fired three fatal bullets into Barrett, killing him, in their factory parking lot. I`m concerned about the on-line temptress, Tallhotblond, the 45-year-old -- let`s see Tallhotblond, the 45-year-old -- come on. Brian Barrett was found dead in the parking lot where he worked, shot three times by a military rifle. You didn`t commit a crime. 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